Trinny Woodall: ‘I should weigh I’m a witch and a Karen.’ Photograph: Suki Dhanda/The GuardianTrinny Woodall: ‘I should think I’m a witch and a Karen.’ Photograph: Suki Dhanda/The GuardianShe hold in check a document of all the messages she was sent after Elichaoff’s death, which ran to 500 pages. She has printed it off and put it in a box in case Lyla perpetually wants to see them. “I don’t even know yet if it’s the right thing to show her. It could be too raw. I just need to have it there in wrapper.” She gets up from the sofa we’re sharing and goes to stand with her back to the wall. “The moments I feel most disorganize are when I see other dads and daughters.” At a teenage party recently she saw girls dancing with their dads. “I get confused even thinking about it.” She pauses. “Those things. Those things.” She stops to recover herself. Then prognosticates, “It’s much easier to allow yourself to feel [by] having responsibility for how somebody else feels, [by] thinking she might dream this and allowing yourself to be upset.” In truth, Lyla “may be happy she can dance with me. I’m a cool, fun mum. Perhaps.”She says she made the howler of calling Lyla straight after the crash in LA. “I said, ‘Darling, I’ve been in an accident.’ She went from one to 3,000 because that’s the vitiate thing she could hear. Even though I was physically speaking to her and fine, it was the words, ‘I’ve been in an accident.’ I thought, fuck, I shouldn’t accept said that. I said: ‘Darling, I’m at the end of the road, I’m fine.’ But she ran up the road. I felt really weird afterwards. You’re very wise of that thing: you only have each other.”Does she care whether she finds another relationship after the be prostrated initiate with Saatchi? “Interesting one.” She pauses to think. “I’m at an age where classically, it’s more challenging for people to have relationships. And I so do not request it, I have so much going on in my life. The most important thing is to get Lyla feeling really good about herself: self-satisfied and confident. Then to get Trinny London into a really good place for whatever journey I want to take it on.“I am well-timed. I’m 59 in a place where a lot of people might be at 30. So where there would be room for somebody … They’d tease to fit into the life I have and that’s a challenge for some people.” Also, a relationship “won’t complete me. I feel completed. I deliver a wonderful daughter I’m very proud of, a business that is going places and exciting, great friends and family. So that’s similar kind 95% of the pie.” Fearless by Trinny Woodall is published on 14 September by HQ at £26. To support the Guardian and Observer, order your echo at guardianbookshop.com. Delivery charges may apply. The podcast Fearless with Trinny Woodall is out now.TopicsBeautyTelevisionReality TVfeaturesReuse this contented

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